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[QUOTE = "Jirka22, příspěvek: 298538, člen: 10806"]
Můj problém je tedy vyřešen. Dodnes se Honda ani nevyjádřila. Jen výmluva na všechny otázky. S kamarádem jsme zahájili opravu a uspěli jsme. Nový seznam dílů: kompletní převodovka, olejové čerpadlo, spojkový koš s kotouči, snímač převodovky a kryt spojky.
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Now,
in a place where they build Zlin and L-39
technical skills, mechanical know-how and abilities
must be plenty enough to fix even hopeless Honda engine transmission.

Well done man!

(y) what a job (y)
Thank you for paying tribute to our skill. The repair was for two days of work and one day of tuning. But I waited unnecessarily for two months for any Honda statement that there is none to date.
 

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I saw in an Africa Twin forum where the DCT disintegrated and the owner went after Honda UK and then Honda Japan was looped in for technical assessment. It went back and forth for months and finally, a decision was made to replace the whole bike.

Remember that Honda's DCT has been around for more than a decade and there was no recalls for that model year.

 

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...The repair was for two days of work and one day of tuning.
You got the skills, the tools, the parts
maybe the workshop manual for the CB1000R
a second pair of hands even.

Successful job.

While setting the wrench to the proper torque values
crack a beatific smile at the risks of tiny gravel nicks to the paint of fragile exhaust pipes
or the trials and troubles of hairy master job a tail tidy.

A transmission failure is the worst case.
When hardened pieces of steel gear or bearing go flying
no way to stop more grave collateral damages.

Surviving the mishap is already a pretty good start.

Fixing it: icing on the cake.

But I waited unnecessarily for two months for any Honda statement that there is none to date.
Here and across the Atlantic, you read it,
never happens on Honda.

After disintegrating transmission on my 140 000 km 5 yrs old K1.
Bad, very very bad, at full blast on Autobahn.
Got a polite letter answer from some BMW suit
it was normal for parts to fail on old cycle with lots of miles.
A Motorrad that wasn't in production anymore!

Waited six weeks for BMW to cough-up new parts.

They have a Redewendung about it across the Atlantic:
Shit happens.

Try fluent written japanese,
no Google Trad,
would get you some nice polite answer.
 

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After disintegrating transmission on my 140 000 km 5 yrs old K1.
Bad, very very bad, at full blast on Autobahn.
Got a polite letter answer from some BMW suit
it was normal for parts to fail on old cycle with lots of miles.
A Motorrad that wasn't in production anymore!

Waited six weeks for BMW to cough-up new parts.

They have a Redewendung about it across the Atlantic:
Shit happens.

Try fluent written japanese,
no Google Trad,
would get you some nice polite answer.
Huh ... BMW is famous for the deny everything and admit nothing political stance.

Their E92 M3 cars had a defect in the design of their S65 V8 engine and there were numerous reported failures for the same rod bearings issue but they refuse to issue a recall. There's even a registry for this issue on forums.
This model is now considered a lemon for the common folks but they are still bought and owned by people who wants to spend most of their free time in the garage fixing cars. When it's working well, it is one of the smoothest free-revving naturally aspirated V8 in the world.

I hope Honda does not behave this way.
 

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@Jirka22,
If I were you, I would pursue Honda for this. A motorcycle that is only around 10K miles should not do this; especially, if it is Honda and they need to own this.
If you let this go, and others pop up, they will do likewise by brushing it aside and it will eventually develop into a BMW habit.

How about getting in touch with Honda Japan?
 

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@Jirka22 ,
I'm still scratching my head on how the housing of the gears can snap into half.
Were there any telltale signs days or weeks before this happened?
 

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Can't tell in the case of Jirka22.

But experience anything breaking in the gearbox,
major destruction happens.
The faster you are at the time, the worse.

You can save a seized engine and escape connecting rods punching the case
by swift clutch action.

Not so with transmission mishaps
there is no fail safe except immediate full stop.

An hardened gear breaking in the box won't give any advance warning.

Fun fact:
sometimes a chain break or a shaft drive break
will just end up with broken parts spread on the pavement, and that's it.

Or the broken chain will lash the engine case; breaking it clean.

DAMHIK :oops::oops::oops:
 

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I wonder if the gear shift link near the left foot has play and that's what is causing the false neutral.
Looks like there is a more tight-fitting (supposedly) 3rd party vendor from the UK offering such a solution.
------- here's what the vendor posted on Facebook -------
Have you ever been in a situation where you’re screaming through some twisties when suddenly you hit a false neutral and so you have no drive or engine breaking,
This can be extremely dangerous.
What are miss shifts / false neutrals? false neutral’s are where the transmission does not engage the gears properly. This can be very frustrating when your in the moment ready for the next corner when you hit 4th or 5th and BAM you hit that unwanted false neutral.
dangerous if one doesn’t know how to handle the situation properly too.
The gear shift linkage is a common cause of this, feel your linkage, it has a lot of play and the Gear shaft also has lateral movement.
The Racetorx Gear shift support stiffens up the lateral movement in the gear shaft which then also reduces the slop in the gear shift linkage and so
helps prevent miss shifts altogether and provides positive gear changes.
============ End of Facebook post ==========
 

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I wonder if the gear shift link near the left foot has play and that's what is causing the false neutral.
Looks like there is a more tight-fitting (supposedly) 3rd party vendor from the UK offering such a solution.
------- here's what the vendor posted on Facebook -------
Have you ever been in a situation where you’re screaming through some twisties when suddenly you hit a false neutral and so you have no drive or engine breaking,
This can be extremely dangerous.
What are miss shifts / false neutrals? false neutral’s are where the transmission does not engage the gears properly. This can be very frustrating when your in the moment ready for the next corner when you hit 4th or 5th and BAM you hit that unwanted false neutral.
dangerous if one doesn’t know how to handle the situation properly too.
The gear shift linkage is a common cause of this, feel your linkage, it has a lot of play and the Gear shaft also has lateral movement.
The Racetorx Gear shift support stiffens up the lateral movement in the gear shaft which then also reduces the slop in the gear shift linkage and so
helps prevent miss shifts altogether and provides positive gear changes.
============ End of Facebook post ==========
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Hi, do you mean backstage support? That won't help!!
 

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...Hi, do you mean backstage support? That won't help!!
Oh yes it does.
This is another brilliant example of angelsächsisch ingenuity.

People on fece-book are eager to bolt
unneeded or plain absurd parts on their bike.
Helps a lot in the twisties where most of us
spend screaming and engine breaking (sic) most of our riding time.

Found a more better Honda OEM part.
The invisible gear lever:
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Works marvels in the twisties for screaming out loud and breaking.
No more false neutral!

Bonus :whistle:
an Honda part it's covered by Honda warranty.
 
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