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    if real, it's definitely the computer, since it now controls throttle, fuel and timing.

    as per graph above, near WOT on both 2 and 3, Torque should be similar-ish (sure, it's a vague graph, but from Honda..)

    is very unlikely to be throttle butterfly position.

    Apri11's post shows stock AFR stays stoich (mid 14's( until about 7000rpm, when it moves down to what is traditionally "rich for power".
    the Rapid bike stays low 13's until 9000rpm, when it meets up with the stock AFR.
    that's only WOT AFR, and what it does just off WOT could be interesting (likely lean a bit) but... they run good on stoich, and AFR doesn't need to be super precise

    is more likely timing, (as mentioned before), where WOT pulls timing back a little..

    then again... it could even be your fuel.. (but timing related)
    it is possible... that with a higher octane fuel (that needs more timing to get the most push), the ECU's timing at WOT may not be enough... but just off WOT, with a bit more timing, the engine responds better...

    says it only needs 91 octane (here), but it does feel a bit different with 91, 95 or 98.. (98 feels softer, 95 better.. 91 a bit rough... cos 91 here is a bit shit )

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    Quote Originally Posted by vampire View Post
    At power level 2&3 and traction control level 1&2.
    Above 6k rpm.
    Stock and rapid bike.
    I have a strong feeling it's the damm computer
    Correct, it is.--------Honda method to keep its customers alive.------Mortifying them is not good for business.----They don't all have these guys abilities even if they THINK they have.--





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    Quote Originally Posted by COLVERT View Post
    [COLOR=#0000CD][SIZE=4]Correct, it is.--------Honda method to keep its customers alive.------Mortifying them is not good for business.----
    so you're saying.. Honda doesn't want to kill its customers.. so they put maximum torque output slightly less than full open throttle....

    and yet, the button at the front of your left grip gives you fast and easy access to turning traction control completely off, so you can power wheelie in first, second and maybe third gear.
    (have you ever used that button Colvert? try pushing that button on your NSC and see what happens )
    and the NSC accelerates faster to 130km/hr than their CBR superbike.....

    your logic doesn't have logic in any way shape or form.
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    How many members on this forum do you reckon can power wheelie ???

    I get what you are saying though. Anybody who buys the latest Hondas can do wheelies right from the first time they ride the bike.

    Superbike ??? do you mean the 170 bhp Fireblade ???



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    Quote Originally Posted by COLVERT View Post
    How many members on this forum do you reckon can power wheelie ???
    Every single one of them.

    ANYONE on the planet can power wheelie a 1000cc sportbike.

    0 skill required. Just twist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COLVERT View Post
    Superbike ??? do you mean the 170 bhp Fireblade ???
    https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocia...-specification

    paragraph 3:

    "Torque is up 5% through the middle of the rev range, and thanks to the 4% shorter gearing, the CB1000R accelerates faster than the CBR1000RR; in the first three gears, up to 80mph, it’s claimed to out-drag the supersport machine!"
    piling the mileage on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DELuth View Post
    Every single one of them.

    ANYONE on the planet can power wheelie a 1000cc sportbike.

    0 skill required. Just twist.
    Totally agree. Any idiot can give the bike full throttle. Bit like jumping off a cliff. It's when you come down. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh.





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