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    Pretty much anything I can find on Power Vision seems to be about Harleys. I really want to understand what sort of improvements should be possible. Can we have our bottom end back?

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    Harley's in the US are a massive market for the Powervision. By all accounts it's a great product. Fingers crossed
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigOne-94-14 View Post
    Pretty much anything I can find on Power Vision seems to be about Harleys. I really want to understand what sort of improvements should be possible. Can we have our bottom end back?
    Probably very few people around that can answer that question.--

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcorollas View Post

    Maybe the mid-range hole is just relative..
    Nope. The torque curves are different. I did 27k miles on my 2014. It had instant 50ft/lb torque from 2k up. When I opened the throttle, it just went. The 2018 hesitates until about 5k.

    I haven't had the inclination to fully experiment, but it does appear as if the 2018 is softer at low revs in the first 3 gears. Logically I can see why that might be: a lot of riders seem to like sitting in 1st or 2nd gear on city streets, and if they have full power at 20-30mph they might get themselves into trouble. Which is why I'm hoping that Dynojet can give us back some of that bottom end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigOne-94-14 View Post
    Nope. The torque curves are different. I did 27k miles on my 2014. It had instant 50ft/lb torque from 2k up. When I opened the throttle, it just went. The 2018 hesitates until about 5k.

    I haven't had the inclination to fully experiment, but it does appear as if the 2018 is softer at low revs in the first 3 gears. Logically I can see why that might be: a lot of riders seem to like sitting in 1st or 2nd gear on city streets, and if they have full power at 20-30mph they might get themselves into trouble. Which is why I'm hoping that Dynojet can give us back some of that bottom end.
    Interesting reading your observations on torque between the old and new bikes.

    It will stop me thinking about changing to the new model. The torque on the older bike is exactly where I want it to be.

    Would be most upset to find I'd lost that low revs grunt.

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    My headers arrived 2 months ago,, still waiting for a fuel controller!

    Compared to my '13,, there is nothing below 6k in my '18.. i rarely use 3rd gear now.
    spun out '

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    Get a rapid bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by vampire View Post
    My headers arrived 2 months ago,, still waiting for a fuel controller!

    Compared to my '13,, there is nothing below 6k in my '18.. i rarely use 3rd gear now.
    Do you ride around in first and second then most of the time ???

    Your fuel consumption must be horrific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostrider.1127 View Post
    Get a rapid bike
    How much difference did it make to yours? Do you have dyno printout?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigOne-94-14 View Post
    Nope. The torque curves are different. I did 27k miles on my 2014. It had instant 50ft/lb torque from 2k up. When I opened the throttle, it just went. The 2018 hesitates until about 5k.

    I haven't had the inclination to fully experiment, but it does appear as if the 2018 is softer at low revs in the first 3 gears. Logically I can see why that might be: a lot of riders seem to like sitting in 1st or 2nd gear on city streets, and if they have full power at 20-30mph they might get themselves into trouble. Which is why I'm hoping that Dynojet can give us back some of that bottom end.
    Having ridden the NSC quite a bit now I'd agree that my 'old' '08 CB does feel nicer at the lower to mid-range revs with a very linear feel to the power delivery right up through- although it is set up well with Akra,decat, BMC air filter and PCIII and isn't by any means slow , but the NSC is more of a beast from 7k for sure.
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