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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeRSP2 View Post
    Really? I generally think most road riders run out of talent long before the standard CB1KR suspension runs out of capability.
    Yes, I must agree with you there. Watching some folk trying to corner fast with their body in the wrong place tends to catch your eye.

    They think they are cornering fast because they can touch their knee down. However the bike its at an extreme angle but their body is vertical !!!

    They are on the edge of the tyres and on the limit of their grip. If they leaned their bodies over the bike would be more upright and gripping the road better. This would give the rider the opportunity to actually increase speed without low-siding the bike on the road.

    More speeeeeeeed---Less sparks.---Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeRSP2 View Post
    Really? I generally think most road riders run out of talent long before the standard CB1KR suspension runs out of capability.
    I'm a fat boy. Standard suspension on the current model bottoms out too easily on country roads and under heavy braking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COLVERT View Post
    Yes, I must agree with you there. Watching some folk trying to corner fast with their body in the wrong place tends to catch your eye.

    They think they are cornering fast because they can touch their knee down. However the bike its at an extreme angle but their body is vertical !!!

    They are on the edge of the tyres and on the limit of their grip. If they leaned their bodies over the bike would be more upright and gripping the road better. This would give the rider the opportunity to actually increase speed without low-siding the bike on the road.

    More speeeeeeeed---Less sparks.---Lol.
    Totally agree. The number of riders you see leaning the bike while sitting up in the opposite direction never ceases to amaze me, it is so illogical. Winter riding demands even more use of body lean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson View Post
    It would of been nice if the plus version offered some genuine (ie expensive) upgrades like the Triumph naked's do, the suspension being the biggest want from most of us.
    honestly, Hudson, the 'factory upgraded' suspensions that get offered by Triumph, Ducati, etc, are improvements, for sure, but they are not the full answer. bottom line, unless you lie within a narrow weight range, the spring rates still will not be ideal for you. better functionality, and more adjustability , yes; but 'the best' for you - you gotta go aftermarket for that...
    piling the mileage on...

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    If I'm truthful, I don't really agree that body position is critical for ROAD (not track) riding. The cost of hanging off is reduced bike control and less ability to deal with unforseen situations.
    Also, refer to any road race (e.g., IOM TT) and take a look at their lack of hanging off

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    Quote Originally Posted by JM1 View Post
    If I'm truthful, I don't really agree that body position is critical for ROAD (not track) riding. The cost of hanging off is reduced bike control and less ability to deal with unforseen situations.
    Also, refer to any road race (e.g., IOM TT) and take a look at their lack of hanging off
    Evidence that using body weight reduces bike control? Interesting that the IAM teach it so clearly they don't think it does. My experience tends to indicate the opposite. Of course it depends on the degree of hanging off. We are hardly talking about knees and elbows down here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JM1 View Post
    If I'm truthful, I don't really agree that body position is critical for ROAD (not track) riding. The cost of hanging off is reduced bike control and less ability to deal with unforseen situations.
    Also, refer to any road race (e.g., IOM TT) and take a look at their lack of hanging off
    TT-------Race tracks are SMOOOOOOOTH. The IOM TT surface is ROUGH. Could be hanging off might lose you a knee cap.----OUCH !!!!
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    Obviously road use is nowhere as extreme as track use. However just leaning your body to the side a little definitely makes turning into a corner much easier. The bike will start to do what you want with less input from your arms.
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    Anyway, getting back to the new CB1000R Neo Sports Cafe (!), ugh, what a dog IMHO.

    If I had been thinking of trading in for it, which I wasn't, this wouldn't tempt me one bit

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    don't worry, it will grow IN you....

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